>> limbaugh is jumping into the fray. rush is taking credit for the campaign's sharpened personal attacks . let me play again governor romney 's surrogates and former new hampshire governor john sununu what he said on fox news yesterday and then listen to limbaugh.
>> he has no idea how the american system functions and we shouldn't be surprised about that because he spent his early years in hawaii smoking something, spent the next set of years in indonesia, and another set of years in indonesia, and frankly, when he came to the u.s., he worked as a community organizer which is a socialized structure and then got into politics in chicago.
>> i think sununu has been appointed with the task of going out and performing the duties that i am suggesting need to happen. because that's smoking something in hawaii, he's doing it. never had a paycheck, chicago politics. the only thing he left out was that obama 's been mentored, educated by a bunch of communists.
>> let me bring in our "news nation" political panel. strategist margie amero, politics reporter abby philip and tv show host steve daste. what do you take out of this rush limbaugh claiming that the romney campaign is following the path he's laid ahead, steve ?
>> well, i think i'm going to be alongside a lot of the conservatives around the country. i'm tickled pink, literally, to see the romney campaign finally go after obama as hard as it's gone after conservatives in primaries in the last two presidential cycles. if nothing else, at least we got him to fight back against the obama campaign .
>> for our audience not aware, you're a conservative, no fan of mitt romney . you've taken great pride -- you believe that somehow this fight that the conservatives like yourself have been wanting has been brought to the table in a way that can win the white house ?
>> i do. i think in fact, it's probably the only chance romney has to win the white house . and that is, he's got to show the country that he presents a vision dramatically different from what they're currently seeing. otherwise, people like the president personally more and people will go with the devil they know. romney presenting that case calls into question romney 's credibility because some of the very crony capitalism he's rightfully criticizing the president for he's been guilty of and republicans have been guilty of in the past. what we really have, and i've told you for months on this campaign, i think it's a replay of 2004 where i disagree with conservatives . i do not believe this election is a referendum on obama . i think that's already been held. i think the majority of american people are from skeptical to hostile. romney has to close the s.e.a.l. as kerry did it in 2004 and failed to do.
>> yesterday, they said if the race was today that romney would lose. do you agree with that?
>> absolutely. yes. he's got to -- in the end, everything he's saying about obama i agree with, but he still needs to give the country what will do instead. i think people get suspicious when he doesn't offer specifics because you're talking about a guy that was a global billionaire fans ear. the idea that he was able to raise capital and make so much money and be so successful in business without offering people specifics, people realize that's not the case. he still needs to provide the country with what is his actual vision beyond isn't obama very bad.
>> margie , i think some people will find this perplexing, the argument that steve is presenting. we know that president obama as well as governor romney will need independent voters to come to their side. when you have rush limbaugh on his program basically bragging that john sununu and governor romney are taking a page from his playbook of bringing up drug use and all of these other things that have nothing to do with jobs, when you talk with romney surrogates they say we don't want to talk about the tax issue because it has nothing to do with jobs. what does this strategy do in bringing over independents here?
>> it's the last thing that mitt romney needs right now. and steve 's comments really show one of the underlying liabilities of the romney campaign is they can't get enthusiasm with the far right without some of these incendiar this hot rhetoric and can't win over independents with it. that puts the romney campaign in a bind. on top of that, you have the main argument they have as part of this tax release the tax returns discussion about what he's hiding and coming clean about his time the an bain is stop talking about me. don't pick on me. don't be negative by bringing up what i like to bring up about my own record. that's romney 's response to this, but when they -- when you have john sununu using this incredible heated rhetoric that independent voters i talk to really hate, that takes away that argument. they're now actually going personal supposed to having a real debate about the issues of each candidate's record. they're now going personal and inflammatory without talking about the issues voters care about.
>> to be fair here, you have some people pointing toing this new ad from the dnc that shows ann romney 's horse that will be be competing in the olympics, dressage pointing to mitt romney dancing around showing the public his tax returns or more of his tax returns . is that getting as dirty as you're accusing the conservatives and republicans of being in romney campaign?
>> i think calling the president a socialist is different than showing an image of an a horse. i don't think that the web video is going to move a lot of swing voters . ultimately that web video is not about the horse. the web video is about mitt romney 's tap dance about releasing his own tax returns and how he really doesn't want to come clean.
>> let me bring you in on the conversation, abby . you have a lot of theories out there as to why governor romney does not want to release his tax return . steve december believes he should put out more of his returns. abby , at least one report indicates it is possible with his losses with the stock market that he may have escaped paying taxes at all here. we do not know if this is what happened here. but part of the story line belongs to him. how do you piece together the puzzle if he does not -- if it's a document dump or if it's just one page at a time provide this information?
>> yeah, i think this is is actually romney 's argument himself, that he believe that this could be a black hole for the obama campaign , something that the campaign and the democratic allies will dig indefinitely. i think he's actually right about that. on the other hand, what romney 's facing right now is friendly fire , and that is probably one of the most dangerous things for him. when he has republicans wondering what's in his tax returns , that's a huge problem. he's got to address that. the only way to address that really is to do something about the inquiries, release something. maybe one year additional year, maybe another additional year. that will satisfy conservatives even if it never satisfies democrats.
>> steve , the obama team tweeted out a pretty funny tweet here if it wasn't such a serious issue, i guess it would be funny. they show president obama has released 12 years of his tax returns . governor romney one and they call it the transparent tweet. you see all the checks going across for how many years the president has released his returns and what governor romney has provided. what i find perplexing, steve , is that you're saying you're excited to see governor romney give the fight to president obama that he's given to conservatives . but you don't think he can win here. the national review says in all likelihood, romney won't be able to maintain a position that looks secretive and they say he feeds to release these returns. what is upshot for republicans here? you don't think he can win. is it that you just want to see him fight.
>> well, we think the only way he can win is by fighting and offering a direction and a vision for the country dramatically different than what we're getting. that's why this tax issue hurts him because he's not running on any issues. he's running on gee, obama sucks and i made a bunch of money in business. if you're going to run on biography, people will take a look at your biography. part of that is your tax returns . romney doesn't have a lot of friends in the conservative movement . rick perry came out yesterday and said that romney needs to release these records. remember that mitt romney did everything he could to slit rick perry 's throat the minute he got into this race those first few debates. rick perry 's not going to carry water for mitt romney . the conservative movement is not going to carry any water for romney because he's done nothing but try to destroy many of their candidates in the last two election cycles. this is why he's not going to get some of the political cover that will george w. bush got in the past. you're seeing that in some of the analysis that conservatives are giving of the romney campaign. we're being far more honest about romney than we were about bush. if you were the romney campaign, i'd say i will release my paper trail when the president relations his. where is his college transcripts? where is all the transparency what he did before he was in the illinois state sneempl are you kidding me.
>>> margie , you believe that that is a fair equation here on one breath, you say that governor romney needs to be more transpare transparent. he is running for the highest office in is this country. the american people need to know more about his tax returns and you are saying this. aim not saying this. this is what you're saying but you want to flip the corner and then bring up the president's college transcript . that's your --
>> the reason -- i don't really.
>> those things are equal here?
>> the reason why is because i frankly don't trust -- this whole thing about his tax returns i think for democrats is a red herring . this is about transparent say. the people ought to ask the president to be more transparent.
>> the most transparent president we've had in decades. romney 's own father released 1 years himself. mitt romney relations less than previous candidates before him. he runs on his record on bain . when you see mitt romney talk about his record at bain , rather than his record as governor of massachusetts because he was 47th in the country in job creation and said hey, it takes awhile for jobs to be created he himself has done many of the things that he actually accuses the president of. it's completely legitimate to have this conversation about what's he hiding and why can't he be consistent.
>> i don't disagree with that.
>> why can't he get his story straight?
>> i think it works both ways. the american people got a president and four years elected somebody that went further left than they thought. i think they're entitled to find out why has this guy driven the country so far left .
>> steve , you're also saying --
>> what motivates him.
>> steve , you've also said you are worried that governor romney will be further left than you would like here and other conservatives . i don't know what bowl you're drinking from to be quite honest here because you are also threateninged in many ways by governor romney and the presidency that he would provide to conservatives . you don't like either here.
>> no, i don't. you're asking me two different questions. one is my personal opinion and the other is, what would i do if i were running the romney campaign. those are two totally different things.
>> that's why we have you on. part of you is your personal opinion which you love to give. i appreciate it. abby , thank you, as
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